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By Shawn Raymundo

Residents of a San Clemente apartment complex were awakened early Wednesday morning, Jan. 27, to the sound of federal agents searching the home of local conservative activist Alan Hostetter, neighbors tell San Clemente Times.

Other than to confirm the address of the apartment that was searched, the FBI would not disclose the homeowner’s identity. However, voting records and neighbors in the complex on Thursday, Jan. 28, identified the apartment as belonging to Hostetter.

Hostetter, a staunch advocate of former President Donald Trump and vehement opponent to the state’s stay-at-home orders, has been the face and voice of several anti-lockdown protests in Orange County, including a mask-burning rally near the pier this past November.

Hostetter this month attended the pro-Trump march in Washington, D.C., where rioters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to overturn President Joe Biden’s Electoral College win, resulting in the death of five people.  

According to the FBI, agents were seeking evidence at the San Clemente apartment in relation to an ongoing criminal investigation, but couldn’t comment further on the matter nor confirm whether it was tied to the Capitol riot. No arrests were made related to the search.

With sheriff’s deputies holding him in place, Alan Hostetter clings to a fence at the Pier Bowl parking lot on May 21, as part of a rally he organized to demonstrate against the fencing around the lot. Photo: Shawn Raymundo

As of this posting, Hostetter, who is facing separate criminal charges in connection to a demonstration he organized against the fencing at the Pier Bowl parking lot this past May, did not respond to calls seeking comment.

On the day of the march, Hostetter shared videos and photos of the protest and resulting riot to his American Phoenix Project account on Instagram. Those posts, including a video of the riot that appears to be taken from the balcony of the Capitol building, have since been removed.

In the caption for that video, which has been circulated by other local groups, Hostetter wrote that “thousands proudly stormed the cess pool of corruption while hundreds of thousands cheered them on (sic).”

In another removed post on Instagram, Hostetter addressed his followers who had inquired about his whereabouts during the riot, letting them know he was safe.

“We did our part, we are proud of our fellow patriots, our President and our great country,” he wrote. “This was the ‘shot heard ’round the world!’ … the 2021 version of 1776. That war lasted 8 years. We are just getting warmed up.”  

The search comes on the heels of reports that FBI agents in Southern California arrested individuals suspected of taking part in the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, as well as searched the home of Russ Taylor, a known associate of Hostetter’s.

According to a report from Los Angeles Times, FBI agents on Tuesday searched Taylor’s Ladera Ranch home, where an unknown number of weapons were reportedly found. Taylor, a fellow far-right activist, has organized protests with Hostetter and accompanied him in Washington.

Like Hostetter, Taylor also posted videos of himself to social media marching toward the Capitol the day of the riot. The L.A. Times reported that Taylor has used his social media to acknowledge his participation in the rally, while denying he entered the Capitol building.

Since the Jan. 6 protest, Hostetter’s wife and Vista Del Mar Elementary School teacher, Kristine Hostetter, has also come under fire after parents saw the fourth-grade educator appear in other social media posts Taylor and her husband shared of the march.

The student-led group CUSD Against Racism have used Hostetter’s and Taylor’s posts to call on the Capistrano Unified School District to investigate whether the teacher took part in the riot at the Capitol.

In protest of the state’s stay-at-home order, Alan Hostetter leads a march through Downtown San Clemente on April 21. Photo: Shawn Raymundo

Hostetter’s protests and rhetoric toward the lockdowns and the 2020 presidential race have garnered national media attention, as just this week, a Washington Post columnist wrote an op-ed about the former officer of the law turned yogi.

“… few if any of the other protesters who descended on Washington offered Hostetter’s combination of law enforcement and New Age-y mysticism, his presence at the rally illustrates the surprising, perhaps even unnerving width of hardcore Trump support,” Washington Post columnist Radley Balko wrote in his piece.

Over the past year, Hostetter, a former La Habra police chief, has staged marches and protests in San Clemente, objecting to stay-at-home orders and safety restrictions imposed to stem the spread of the coronavirus.

At one of his demonstrations, where he and multiple others attempted to tear down the fencing the city had placed around the Pier Bowl parking lot, Hostetter was arrested on suspicion of resisting arrest, refusing to disperse and trespassing.

Hostetter now faces criminal charges for those three misdemeanor offenses that the Orange County District Attorney’s office filed with the court this past July.

Ahead of the presidential election this past fall, Hostetter also organized a pro-Trump rally on the beach by the San Clemente Pier, attracting hundreds who came out to support the reelection of the former President.

During those demonstrations, Hostetter has used such terms as “army” and “ground troops” to describe Trump’s supporters, who, he perceives, are fighting in a “war.”

“Our army, led by our fearless leader, President Trump, will win this war,” Hostetter had stated during a speech at his Oct. 3 Trump rally. “Make no mistake about it, we are at war. And this war we will win of that there is no doubt. There is no choice, no alternative whatsoever other than complete and total victory in this war.”

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  • Reporting should be objective, non-partisan, and avoid making judgements that have not been verified. This article violates all of these principles and is a discredit to the SCT.

    “…where rioters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to overturn President Joe Biden’s Electoral College win…”

    The SCT does NOT know that the above is true. It is more likely that the invasion was a protest against the obvious election fraud perpetrated by Democrats and which few courts wished to investigate. Whether the election fraud was enough to change the outcome is indeterminate but it needs to be investigated to give the citizenry confidence in our election integrity. As it stands, that confidence is non existent with a large swath of the public.

    “…resulting in the death of five people.”

    A misleading statement when one considers the fact that at least two if not three of those deaths were from medical emergencies such as the individual who died of a heart attack.

    “…individuals suspected of taking part in the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol…”

    Did the SCT ever describe the wholesale violence and destruction this past summer by leftists (which was cheered on by the media and Democrat elected officials) and which dwarfs into insignificance the Capitol riot, as an insurrection? Your (SCT) hypocrisy in this regard is nauseating.

    “Taylor, a fellow far-right activist…”

    What makes Taylor a “far-right activist”? Is it his support for President Trump, the best President in two generations? In that case, you’ve labeled at least 74 million people as “far-right activists”, a label that has then ceased to have meaning. Is it because Mr. Taylor opposed lockdowns? So small business owners who happened to be liberal who also opposed lockdowns would then be “far-right activists”…at least according to the SCT? Your use of “far-right activist” is a pejorative meant to smear those whose opinions YOU (SCT) disagrees with and is not consistent with non-partisan journalism.

    “…unknown number of weapons were reportedly found.”

    I hope the SCT is not unaware that owning firearms is NOT against the law and that YOU (SCT) support the law of the land which includes the 2nd Amendment.

    “The student-led group CUSD Against Racism have used Hostetter’s and Taylor’s posts to call on the Capistrano Unified School District to investigate whether the teacher took part in the riot at the Capitol.”

    Has CUSD Against Racism been investigated to insure none of their members were involved in the riots that destroyed significant portions of various US cities or does that question even cross your radar?

    Why is the SCT repeating the claims of opinion writers for liberal news papers (WaPo)? You didn’t repeat any claims from conservative opinion writers…it has become apparent why.

    “…objecting to stay-at-home orders and safety restrictions imposed to stem the spread of the coronavirus.”

    Yes, and it is manifest that these “stay-at-home orders” which the Governor hypocritically failed to observe himself, were arbitrary, not based in science, and now discarded in favor of opening up the economy now that Joe Biden is president, i.e., were inflicted more to hurt President Trump’s re-election chances.

    “During those demonstrations, Hostetter has used such terms as “army” and “ground troops” to describe Trump’s supporters, who, he perceives, are fighting in a “war.”

    Conservatives ARE fighting a war, an information war in which their opinions get censored, blocked, banned, or demonetized. They are also subject to personal attacks including verbal and/or physical, penalized by demotions, firings, or being disqualified from employment in various industries. Hit pieces, like YOURS (SCT) on the character of those who speak out against such injustices are legion.

    I hope YOU (SCT) will write a follow-up to rectify these glaring instances of bias and hate, partisanship that should never find a home in a local community paper…we deserve better.

    • David’s comment is so absurd and nakedly biased, I’m tempted to think it’s a parody of a brainless right wing extremist. Here’s hoping.

      • The US is no longer a representative government but a single party government. It has been that way for a while now.

        Many are lovn’ it.

    • Defending the indefensible would be to defend Hostetter. Whatever hot water he finds himself in is his own doing. Why does anyone believe this guy? He sure seems to have a selective hatred for socialism considering he worked in a union, was paid by the state and continues to collect his state pension all while protesting the loss of freedom and the fear mongering of socialism. Surprising how many in San Clemente have been Jim Jonesed by the guy. He is a self serving fraud who must be one who craves power and control – policeman, then yoga/new age/hippy leader followed by protest leader. Stop following this phony.

      • Joe Biden is a traitor who sold his country out to enrich his family…my opinion based upon the evidence.

        “Why does anyone believe this guy?”

        Who said anything about believing “this guy”? Readers demanding that news articles be unbiased and provide information to back up their claims is not to be deduced as defending the target of the article.

        “He is a self serving fraud who must be one who craves power and control…”

        How do YOU know? As I stated in an earlier post, I don’t know Mr. Hostetter and wouldn’t recognize him if he was sitting across from me in the doctor’s office…do YOU know him? And what’s with the yogi/hippie/new age leader nonsense? What has any of that to do with standing up for your freedoms? Does one automatically lose the right to protest their loss of freedom if they become a yogi…at least according to you?

        I was a union member for more than 35 years, many who are don’t have a choice except to find other work. Are YOU suggesting Mr. Hostetter isn’t entitled to the pension he worked hard and long for?

        Look around the world and at history…do you see any successful socialist countries? How is Venezuela doing? Do you want to turn America into a freedom killing China? Cambodia? Soviet Union? Albania? North Korea?

        In case you’re tempted to look toward Scandinavia, don’t.

        As Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen himself put it, in reaction to this fictionalized vision of his country: “I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”

        “…all while protesting the loss of freedom…”

        ALL Americans should be protesting about our loss of freedoms including the leftists who are championing said loss. Remember the words of German Pastor, Martin Niemoller:

        “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
        Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
        Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
        Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

        I leave you with a short documentary by a Swede on the fact that Sweden is NOT a socialist country:

    • Keep up the good reporting, San Clemente Times. Oddly enough, this very loud comment section gives me hope that some of the OAN and Newsmax crowd who come here to get angry about actual facts will someday realize how thoroughly they’ve been hoodwinked. Defending sedition didn’t go to well for the Confederates, either.

      • The lawless left is undermining the safety and security of this great nation.

        “Defending sedition didn’t go to well for the Confederates, either.”

        The Confederates were Democrats just like the leftist Democrats of today who defended the burning and looting of American cities.

        VP Kamala Harris said the (riots going on at the time) protests would continue and should continue and she contributed money to bail out rioters so that they could return to burning and looting.

        Congresswoman, Ayanna Pressley (Democrat) said that as long as there was unrest in our lives there will be unrest in the streets (while the riots were going on).

        Democrat senator, Chuck Schumer, threatened Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Bret Kavanaugh.

        Democrat Congresswoman, Maxine Waters, said she would take Trump out and encouraged her supporters to harass Trump administration officials.

        Democrat Congressman, Cory Booker, made similar statements.

        Leftist Democrats are the ones fomenting rebellion and division in this country. As you pointed out above, it didn’t go well for the Democrats in 1865 and it isn’t going well for Democrats or our nation today.

        “…who come here to get angry about actual facts…”

        What actual facts are YOU referring to?

  • Good. This man stands for everything that is wrong with America at the moment, he partook in a violent armed coup on the capitol of the united states, the literal heart of our democracy, and he wants to play the victim. He claims to be a patriot, he claims to love this country, all the while he marches lockstep next to white supremacist’s, racists and other degenerates without batting an eye. Those are not simply just ‘different’ view points, they are completely antithetical to democracy. He is a patriot in name only, he and his ilk do not care one iota about your liberties or your freedoms, they are fascists masquerading as patriots. One need only look at the basic tenets of QAnon idelogy to understand just how unhinged these people are, they truly believe that there is an evil cabal of democrats who eat children… that Donald Trump (a PROVEN serial conman and malignant narcissist) will swoop in with the army and kill all of the democrats and republicans who do not share their delusions. People like Senator Greene are not outliers, they ARE representative of these people. This is not a partisan issue, wanting to protect your country against literal cultist maniacs should NEVER be a partisan issue.

    Also the folks complaining about being ‘cancelled’ might want to re-read the constitution and our laws, seeing as they are so plainly ill-informed on both. Private businesses are allowed to kick you out for being a racist moron or for refusing to leave when they ask you to leave, that’s called trespassing by the way. But personal responsibility, literacy, and accountability are only things that they want OTHER people to deal with, having to deal with the consequences for partaking in an armed coup in the capitol? Ye gods, how unthinkable! /Sarcasm

    When you read responses like those posted by David Davidson above I want you to think long and hard about what he’s really saying. His post reeks of whataboutism, all he can do is make false equivalencies and distract from the actual problem here. Here’s something he might not know, we CAN condemn the violence that happened over the summer AND the coup at the capitol, there are not mutually exclusive. He must know this and is either arguing in bad faith, or he truly is a moron.

    I’ll leave you with a quote to consider:
    ““Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” – Jean Paul Satre

    What cultist group at the moment does this remind you of? *cough cough, it’s QAnon*

    • President Trump is the best President we’ve had in two generations, maybe three.

      “…he partook in a violent armed coup on the capitol of the united states…”

      There may have been more than a million people at President Trump’s rally, how do you know that this individual even entered the Capitol building? This invasion of the Capitol, while execrable, was NOT a coup and no one has any evidence to support such a foolish notion.

      Did YOU complain when leftists attacked the Supreme Court banging on the doors to disrupt the confirmation hearing of Bret Kavanaugh? How about when Democrat Chuck Schumer personally threatened Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Bret Kavanaugh?

      Did you complain when leftists burned down a police precinct in Minneapolis?

      Did you complain when leftists attempted to burn down a Federal Court House in Portland…with law enforcement officers inside?

      Did you complain when Kamala Harris, in the midst of these summer riots, said these “protests will continue and should continue” thus green lighting the destruction? She even raised funds to bail out of jail those who were arrested for rioting so that they could return to rioting.

      Or Democrat Ayanna Pressley saying, again during the rioting, “as long as there is unrest in our lives, there will be unrest in the streets”, giving again, the go-ahead to riot.

      “…all the while he marches lockstep next to white supremacist’s, racists and other degenerates without batting an eye.”

      The rally had NOTHING to do with race and only racists would make such a claim. Are you a racist Adam? Any comment on the racism in the Democrat party (elected officials) that party members refuse to denounce? See Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, notorious anti-Semites.

      “…he and his ilk do not care one iota about your liberties or your freedoms…”

      And YOU know this how? I understand he was involved with protests against lockdowns…which inhibit our freedoms and liberties, what have YOU done for freedom and liberty besides attacking those who support said freedoms?

      “…they are fascists…”

      That’s a charge leftists throw around quite liberally and usually without support…like you just did. Meanwhile, leftist agitators engage in actual Nazi tactics while their useful idiots provide them cover. Adam, are you one of their useful idiots?

      “One need only look at the basic tenets of QAnon idelogy to understand just how unhinged these people are, they truly believe that there is an evil cabal of democrats who eat children…”

      Really? Feel free to elaborate on QAnon “idelogy“ as I am unfamiliar with their “basic tenets”. While you’re at it, please provide a source for your claim that they, or anyone else, believe there are “democrats” who eat children. Now certainly, Democrats support murdering children in the womb but that’s pretty mainstream Democrat stuff.

      I’ll address your other daffy claims in a future post.

  • President Trump was the best President in two generations based upon the enormous amount of good his policies, both foreign and domestic, did for America.

    “…I’m tempted to think…”

    Bill K, you don’t think, that is the problem. You provided exactly zilch to support your foolish comment…no surprise there.

  • This article is NOT news … it is the opinion of an LA Times reading youngun! It besmirches and slanders those whose values the reporter disagrees with (“local conservative activist” vs. “federal agents” (of the publicly corrupt and craven DOJ organization – the FBI.)

    Describing Hostetter as a “staunch advocate …” & “vehement opponent” .. [of Conservative causes] while failing to state that the FBI is well known to be co-conspirators in the national scandals of Crossfire Hurricane swindle and the fruitless 30 million dollar Mueller Independent Counsel Investigation boondoggle has all the tell signs of journalistic bias found in the East Coast UniParty media echo chamber. Nice to know their poison is alive and well in little ol’ San Clemente.

    Evidence-free accusations [much like the Impeachment 2.0 Show opening next week ] that presume yet prove nothing are rife in this article: “Attended a pro-Trump rally,” “where rioters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to overturn Biden’s Electoral College win … resulting in the death of five people.” Conflation: 2 were suicides, one was law enforcement officer alleged to be struck with a fire extinguisher, and one was an unarmed Air Force veteran [SAY HER NAME – Ashli Babbitt] reported to be shot at point blank range by Capitol police – I would inform you of more FACTS but it seems her death doesn’t warrant any investigation as neither the Capitol Police, the Congress, nor any meganews outlet has reported any thing about an investigation! Who pulled the trigger? Why deadly force? Bodycam evidence? Even temporary suspension of triggerman until investigated? No. No. No. And NO!

    Ignorance/Denial of Constitutional protections in a trial by press gambit: Hostetter “shared videos and photos of the protest and resulting riot.” More: “This was the shot heard round the world … the 2021 version of 1776. That war lasted 8 years; we are just getting started.” Who revoked Freedom of Speech when Biden was illegitimately elected?

    If the author of this SC Times piece wants any street cred with your older and better informed readers perhaps he should be assigned to cover the Impeachment 2.0 next week. The Lefties will ‘go long on emotion and feelz.” Alas, all POTUS45 and the 74 million people who voted for him have on their side is the law, the facts, …Oh yes and that little thing called the Constitution of the United States.

  • “President Trump was the best President in two generations.”

    Yeah, like that time Trump suggested injecting household cleaners into people’s lungs to cure them of the coronavirus.

    Or how about that time he looked at a solar eclipse without eye protection — after everyone was repeatedly told not to look at the eclipse without eye protection.

    And then there was that time he couldn’t admit he was wrong when he tweeted that Hurricane Dorian was going to hit Alabama, and so he drew on a weather map with a Sharpie to make it seem like he was right.

    And how about that time he threw paper towels at people in Puerto Rico who had just endured Hurricane Maria.

    Or maybe that time he asked members of the National Security Council if they could nuke hurricanes rather than letting them hit the U.S.

    And who could forget that time Trump was told to talk about Frederick Douglass at a Black History Month event, clearly had no idea who that was, and while trying to BS his way through the talk, implied that Douglass was still alive.

    And then there was that time he suggested that his much-desired border wall could just maybe be buttressed with alligator moats.

    What a man.

    • Refuting the false claims of Hal Forsen is getting to be a full time job.

      President Trump did NOT suggest “injecting household cleaners into people’s lungs” though his actual statement was pretty lame. The President regularly speaks extemporaneously and as such, says a lot of dumb things. China Joe Biden has been a gaff machine and serial plagiarizer his entire political life and can barely manage to read off a teleprompter without spouting drivel.

      The solar eclipse blather is another gross exaggeration. For the impartial, that disqualifies Hal, here is the actual video. Count up the milliseconds he looks at the eclipse…and this is what Hal is concerned with in a President? His priorities are messed up.

      Getting exercised over the President throwing paper towels to the people is again, pathetic. Exactly what is wrong with it? Hal should explain and be specific since HE brought it up.

      Hal’s last 3 claims about Douglas, Hurricanes, and alligators are just BS. He is free to support them if he can but thus far he has provided nothing.

      What counts and what accrues to America’s benefit are the kind of foreign policy successes that brought President Trump three Nobel Peace Prize nominations…successes that eluded Obama, the Bushes, and Clinton.

  • And let’s all remember what a wonderful job #45 did with the Covid Crisis.

    COVID-19 has now killed more Americans than WWII.

    • You are told that.

    • President Trump’s leadership in combating the Wuhan China virus was outstanding, no thanks to the Democrats who attempted to undermine his efforts.

      President Trump banned travel from China on January 31st, almost a month BEFORE the first death in America. Wuhan China is where the virus originated.

      In response to this life-saving action (Dr. Fauci stated later that this one act saved countless lives), sleepy Joe Biden accused the President of hysterical xenophobia and Nancy Pelosi proposed the “No Ban Act”, legislation intended to prevent the administration from banning said travel. Bernie Sanders declared he would not close the US border to prevent the spread of the virus.

      In President Trump’s Feb. 4th SOTU address, he promised to take all necessary steps to protect Americans from the virus. Meanwhile, Democrats were focused on their impeachment farce.
      The DHHS immediately began working with private companies to develop a vaccine and the FDA certified labs to develop testing kits.

      All through February and into early March, Democrats and much of the leftist media were down playing the virus. Pelosi invited crowds to come to China Town to celebrate as did Mayor De Blasio with his constituents in NYC. On Feb. 24th, Trump asked Congress for $2.5 billion to fight the virus but Pelosi delayed a vote on the measure.

      In early March, the administration was ramping up supplies, an effort that had been hindered when China and the WHO lied to the world about the transmissibility of the virus giving China time to buy up the world’s PPE supplies. Some states had failed to keep an adequate inventory of such supplies including ventilators, notably, New York.

      March 12th the President banned travelers from Europe and declared a national emergency to access $42 billion to fight the virus. By the 18th he had released the hospital ships, Comfort and Mercy ,which arrived on station a week before leftist news outlets claimed was possible. By the 29th, a 2,900 bed temporary hospital had been constructed at the Javits Center in NYC. By April, 29,600 National Guard troops had been activated to assist in the fight against the CCP virus.

      By April 5th, the President had stockpiled 29 million doses of hydroxychloroquine and more than 19 million doses were sent to cities across the country. On the 6th, clinical trials on a vaccine were approved and by the 9th, 19 potential therapies were being tested. On April 11th, President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for ALL 50 states, the first one in American history. On the 16th, he announced a three-phase plan with new federal guidelines to restart the economy. These guidelines were approved by Dr. Fauci, Birx, and FDA head, Dr. Hahn.

      While all of this was going on, 5 Democrat Governors sent infected patients back into the nursing homes to infect the staff and inhabitants with predictable results. Thousands died and when this became public, Governor Cuomo of New York attempted to hide the information and shield he and nursing homes from any liability.

      President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed resulted in the fastest a vaccine has been produced, less than a year, when experts were predicting it would take at least 18 months.

      Yes, President Trump did a magnificent job fighting the virus while doing a not-so-good a job fighting the media and Democrats who spent their time fighting him and undermining his efforts on behalf of this nation.

  • OOPs! I almost forgot 45’s lame attempt to foment a coup.

    History won’t tho’.

  • What arm coup?

    I don’t understand the hatred towards Trump and his supporters. I just don’t see what actions can provoke such hatred (actions not words.) What I seen was constant media promoting hatred towards him with a lot of outrageous claims. This happened to Bush but not near, as I recall, at the same intensity. It seems that campaign was very effective with lots of people.

    I understand how some of Trumps words and such can frustrate many, even if not taken out-of-context. But specifically what actions, not actions media or his political enemies claimed, but actions/laws/executive actions taken. All sides lobby nonsense at each other so that has to be filtered.

    One thing I have noticed is that both sides tend to repeat sound bites in arguments, but sounds bites are just propaganda so those should be filtered too. They are not arguments.

  • I wonder what flavor of Kool Aid?

    • Biden has been a disaster thus far and only promises to get worse.

      “I wonder what flavor of Kool Aid?”

      I don’t know Hal, you tell us, you’re the one with the KoolAid IV.

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